Path: newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: celeste801@aol.com (Celeste801) Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories Subject: Celestial Reviews 107 - Aug 10 (1/2) Date: 10 Aug 1996 12:37:00 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 373 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4uidrc$i8q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: celeste801@aol.com (Celeste801) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Status: N Celestial Reviews 107 - August 10, 1996 (1/2) Note: People are constantly asking me where to find the stories I review. I do not have time to respond to that question individually. All stories are posted on alt.sex.stories. In addition, here are the names and addresses of some people who archive their own or others' stories: Mark Aster has set up a Web site with all the Allens stories: http://users.aol.com/myfrthal/ Ann Douglas has a home page at http://members.aol.com/gajcom/annd and will soon have a secondary site at http://www2.inow.com/files/Authors/j/wwwfjellst/AnnD/ Most of Deirdre's stories are available at this web site: http://serv1.tech-one.com/~bill/deirdre/ TG stories by several authors are archived at http://satchmo.physik.TU-Berlin.DE/~zirzlaff/nienor/pub/Stories/Nostrumos_ Book/ Simon bar Sinister has a Mind-Control Story Archive at http://www.galaxy.net/files/Authors/Simon/www/ Robot Fetish stories are posted at: http://users.aol.com/robotdoll/asfr.html Some hot femdom stories can be found at http://www.webcom.com/~akasha/ Vickie Tern has told me that her stories can be downloaded for free at http://library.gaycafe.com/nifty/transgender/by_authors/Vickie_Tern I assume other TG authors could be located at the same site by dropping Vickie's name and using the index. Celestial Reviews are posted at: http://www.emi.u-bordeaux.fr/files/Authors/Jay/www/Celeste Elf Sternberg stories are posted at: http://www.halcyon.com/elf/index.html Sisters Ng stories are posted at: http://members.aol.com/deidreng/index.htm Tooshoes, the author of the Supergirl stories, has a site at http://www.netcom.com/files/Authors/tooshoes/www/PenPartners.html Warthog stories are posted at: http://www.connect.net/linetwo/stories.html Estragon's stories are available at two locations ftp://unix.tpe.com/pub/estragon and at http://www.tpe.com/~mule. The Wulf stories (and apparently some others) are archived at: http://www.teleport.com/~marawuti. Mary Anne Mohanraj posts her own stories at http://www.internet-ireland.ie/maryanne The following web page contains my reviews of the Top 100 Stories of 1995 along with the stories themselves: http://proffa.cc.tut.fi/~k113973/ If any of these are no longer current or if there are others I should add, please contact me. I am interested only in free, non-commercial sites. However, I'll also plug the following organization; although they charge for membership, they GIVE stories away to non-members. (I suppose they hope you'll eventually join.) The BackDrop Club offers a service of helping people who are looking for a specific file, story, or a chapter or section of a story. If you are an adult and know the name of the file you wish to receive, send a request using the following format: TO: file.archives@backdrop.com SUBJECT: (the name of the file you wish as a single word) I HAVE used this service myself, and it is my opinion that it is NOT a rip-off. If you need more information, contact robin@backdrop.com. The BackDrop Club also has a Web Page at http://www.fantasies.com. Finally, Deja News is a search engine available on the World Wide Web. It is possible (without additional cost beyond your service that accesses the Web) to find most of the stories I review by entering a few key words into the search box. To expedite matters, I suggest using "alt.sex.stories" as part of your search strategy. You'll get a short list of "hits," one of which will include the story you are looking for. You then click on the story's brief title, and the whole text pops up on your screen, where you can save it to disk - even if your service does not give you access to the a.s.s. newsgroup. - Celeste "In/Out Law" by Michael K. Smith (romance) 10, 10, 10 "Trinity Trilogy Novel 5/14" by Tom Trinity (miscellaneous orgies) 10, 9.5, 10 "Memories of Underdevelopment" by Estragon (emerging sexuality) 10, 10, 10 "Sarah and Sister Theresa" by Ann Douglas (romance) 9.5, 10, 10 "BiGirls" by Vickie Tern (transgender femdom) 10,10, 10 "Taking Chances" by Javahead (threesome with wife watching) 10, 10, 10 *"Tell Me a Story" by smoot2 (fantasy plus live sex) 10, 10, 10 *"Churche House" by Deb Atwood (romance) 10, 9, 9 * Repost of a previous review (because the story may be reposted soon). "In/Out Law" by Michael K. Smith (mksmith@metronet.com). This is my kind of short story. Actually, I have grown to enjoy stories that include more unusual forms of sexual activity; but this story describes the simpler kinds of events that I like to imagine happening in my own life or in the lives of my friends. Tom has been married and divorced, and during this story his sister-in-law tells Tom that his brother has been cheating on her. Instead of fucking her brains out right then and there, he tries to help her solve the problem and then makes gentle love to her. Instead of having sex with the children, he converses with them and helps them do well in school and adjust to the problems of their life. Instead of suggesting a sex-change operation, torturing the husband and his lover, proposing a threesome or foursome, or resorting to mind control, he marries the lady; and they live happily ever after. The author even makes all this boring stuff sound interesting and romantic. Ratings for "In/Out Law" Athena (technical quality): 10 Venus (plot & character): 10 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10 "Trinity Trilogy Novel 5/14" by Tom Trinity (stbush@iglou.com). In this segment Tom meets the twins. Teri and Toni are so identical that a man would have to be very lucky to find the secret to telling them apart. By the end of the first day of the convention, Tom could tell them apart, but only under certain, specific, preorgasmic conditions. However, Tom doesn't deal with these twins alone (or alone together, I guess) but rather as part of a fivesome that includes his bosom buddies Judy and Candy. In bygone days I would have tried to count the orgasms. I have long ago abandoned hope of enumerating the Trinity Trilogy orgasms. The only way to keep track of these people would be to put a seismometer in the room. In another chapter we witness Tom performing one of his most important services to society - deflowering another virgin. With the assistance of the other two girls, he initiates the overweight woman tenderly. With any luck, she'll become an aficionado of sex just like Candy - or was it Judy - whose cherry Tom popped back in Chapter 1. As I have read these weekly segments, I have been impressed with the quality of the writing. Whenever I started to say to myself that this was too much of the same thing over and over, something new would pop up. This week we had the twins and an emphasis on anal sex. However, as I said above, I have found it to be futile to try to keep track of the orgasms. So last night I asked my husband if he'd like to have sex more often and with a wider variety of people. "Sure!" he said, as he removed his pants. But he was just being macho. When I pressed him (metaphorically), he acknowledged that we were doing just fine. We have been married a long time, and we have pretty good sex about five times a week. Comparisons with others don't really matter; but the sex surveys say we're above average in frequency of intercourse. I simply don't WANT to do it five times a DAY. That would be thirty-five times a week, for godsake. With all due respect, I'm not even sure my husband CAN do it that often. In fact, I can tell when he's planning a special surprise for me; because before a real binge he always abstains for a couple of days so that we can fuck like rabbits for the special occasion. Me? I can just spread my legs and.... I think at some point excessively frequent sex would become analogous to having steak every day - after a while, steak would no longer be a treat - or like having a birthday everyday, so that birthdays would no longer be special. As it is, we do a lot of interesting things together (as well as apart), and then we have these really special moments together. I dunno. Maybe I'm in a bad mood. I hear my husband in the shower. I think I'll join him and see how he responds to a blow job. Ratings for "Trinity Trilogy Novel 5/14" Athena (technical quality): 10 Venus (plot & character): 9 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10 "Memories of Underdevelopment" by Estragon (an573847@anon.penet.fi). Erica and Leila are two fifteen year old girls who are beginning to discover their own sexuality. Little by little, they start with what they know about boys just from instinct, and then imagine things together, out loud, that they would only have let themselves imagine in private before; and then they try some of those things out for real, on real males; and then they build on what they have learned. One day Erica says, "It's strange. Girls let all kinds of guys they're going to break up with in a week touch them and learn all about them, and their best friend who they'll love forever has no idea what their nipples or slot look like...." And so they head for Leila's house, get naked, and explore each other's bodies. Sounds normal to me. Like many of Estragon's stories, this one starts with perfectly normal, sensible activities and emotions like these and builds to the point where readers will suddenly realize that they are accepting as normal activities that they would previously have viewed as bizarre. In other words, Estragon has fiendishly combined the Socratic dialogue with the short story and feminist ideology. Careful research shows that males outnumber females on this newsgroup. I can't explain this, although I'm sure Erica and Leila could demonstrate that it is this way because women want it this way. My point is that large numbers of male readers will read this story and wonder whether young girls really do lie around playing with each other's bodies, giving pleasure to each other and devising plans for subjugating males to be pussy whipped. {The story gives a delightful discussion of this term.} On the surface, most men probably reject the idea as foolish; they know their girlfriends and lovers, and these people are nice to their male friends. But isn't it possible that that's just part of the facade? Maybe the girlfriends and lovers are smart enough to not let the dumb males know that they are being pussy whipped. Maybe there really is this huge conspiracy going on, but maybe we women are just smart enough to keep our slaves happy by letting them foolishly believe that they are the masters. Makes sense to me. I truly love Estragon's writings, and I don't want to betray the Sisterhood; but I'm going to tell you a secret. When I was an adolescent girl, I did NOT sit around with a girlfriend and devise ways to subjugate males. I never once stuck a boy in the balls with the backside of a spoon, nor did I pee on a male of the species who was begging me to do so. However, as I grew older, in dorms and locker rooms we girls did metaphorically do these things. Although I don't know anyone who actually did cut off a boy's or man's testicles, I do know lots of girls who took delight in emasculating their boyfriends in more socially acceptable ways; and I myself often enjoyed giving one of these assholes a metaphorical kick in the balls. What I am saying is that I doubt that many young girls literally do the things that Erica and Leila do; but a very large number of mature women (myself included) read this story and say, "That's not an entirely bad idea!" In short, this story is sort of a thinking person's "Thelma and Louise." Most of my correspondents think that Estragon is a man. I have no direct knowledge to the contrary, but I suspect that she is a woman. If Estragon is a man, he's a genius to have insights like this into the female psyche; and as Estragon herself would point out, men just aren't all that smart. Ergo, Estragon must be a woman - and a damned good writer besides. On the other hand, Aristophanes was a man, and he wrote Lysistrata. Don't be scared off by my references to Socratic dialogues, to feminine psyches, and all that technical jargon. And don't you guys be afraid that you'll become emasculated by reading this story. And who cares if this IS reality? If Estragon is right, you guys too dumb to realize it anyway. Just read this story and enjoy it! If you do so and then ask real politely, maybe a nice lady will let you get naked for her. Ratings for "Memories of Underdevelopment" Athena (technical quality): 10 Venus (plot & character): 10 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10 "Sarah and Sister Theresa" by Ann Douglas (AnnD55@Pipeline.Com). Nuns have always interested me. In my days as a Catholic school student I hated the bitches because they were so petty and self-righteous and admired them because they were so pretty and so dedicated. In my adult days I have easily reconciled these conflicting images by realizing that the nuns I knew had individual personalities just like anyone else. One of my closest friends became a nun (actually, a sister - there's a difference, she tells me) and subsequently quit her order and got married. She's about as normal as anyone else. She still goes to meetings of ex-nuns and continues to meet with her friends who are still nuns; and she says that ex-nuns are about the same as ex-golfers, ex-engineers, and ex-politicians. She assures me that the stories about secret passages between convents and rectories and about aborted children of illicit unions between priests and nuns being buried in secret basement cemeteries are essentially vicious rumors. However, she hastens to add that she knows very little about bishops and popes, and so these rumors may be true about the upper hierarchy. {My friend has very little respect for upper hierarchies}. My friend tells me that there seem to have been two main reasons for women her age (currently 40+) entering the convent: dedication to the service of others and an inability to get along with men. Actually, my friend feels that the reasons acted jointly: many women who had trouble getting along with men would find the convent an honorable way out - becoming a dedicated nun seemed a lot more honorable than becoming a lesbian or an old maid. My friend thinks that lots of young men became priests for the same reasons. My friend tells me that ex-nuns (and presumably real nuns) are not especially inclined to be lesbians. She believes that about 20% of her friends who have left the convent are practicing lesbians; the rest have either remained celibate or have entered heterosexual relationships. While in the convent, nuns are required to avoid relationships with men (because of their vows of celibacy/virginity), and so whatever relationships they do develop are likely to be with women. However, genital contact is considered sinful; and an active lesbian would be booted out of most orders. They're supposed to sublimate (as Freud would put it) or be a bride of Christ (as mother superior would put it). My friend maintains that the avoidance of sex or the clandestine practice of sex turned some women into real bitches; but many others were (and are) exceptionally intelligent and dedicated people. It is my own opinion that lots of ex-nuns read the stories on this newsgroup; they just don't advertise that fact. I told my friend she should write a book. She says maybe she will; but I don't think she'll post it on this newsgroup. So I thought I should share this information with you as an introduction to this repost of Ann Douglas's excellent story. Too often people post stories about nuns in which either (1) the nuns are in heat, trying to seduce little kids, or (2) a bunch of sinister studs rape the nuns. These stories may be enjoyable in their own right, but I like an occasional story about normal people who are in love. The character portrayed by Ann in this story is more in line with the dedicated nuns my friend knew. In this story, Sarah is a young woman who teaches in the same school with Sister Theresa, a young nun who had been Sarah's teacher several years earlier. In fact, it was partly because Sarah had spied on Sister Theresa in the shower that Sarah had come to the conclusion that she was herself a lesbian. At the end of a long school day Sarah's car breaks down; and she has to spend the night at the convent, sharing a room with Sister Theresa. In the middle of the night, Sarah awakens to find Sister Theresa masturbating and calling out another nun's name in her sleep. You'll have to read the story yourself to find out what comes next. Right now I'll just assure you that it's hot and romantic but not sleazy. Ratings for "Sarah and Sister Theresa" Athena (technical quality): 9.5 Venus (plot & character): 10 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10 "BiGirls" by Vickie Tern (VickieTern@aol.com). Craig has stumbled onto a group of women who call themselves the BiGirls. They are bisexuals who enjoy giving pleasure to each other as well as to their husbands or boyfriends; and they take pleasure from each other the same way, and see no harm in doing so. But their husbands might not understand. So they don't want Craig snooping around to take pictures of them to use to blackmail them into not blackmailing him, so that he can blackmail them into selling insurance to their husbands. From now on, when they're meeting, they'll want to know exactly where Craig is. And that'll be right there with them at their little sex session. Thus does Craig become an honorary member of the BiGirls Club. Kinda catches your attention, doesn't it? Of course there are catches and conditions. For example, Craig has to wear female clothing during the meetings and has to act as much as possible like a woman. This may sound humiliating; but the way the author presents it, Craig actually enjoys it immensely. The activity even improves his sex life with his wife. A Club rule is that a BiGirl who is unoccupied at a meeting can never refuse another member's request, and Craig soon begins looking for interesting things to do with each of the other ladies. Anything at all is permitted, as long as it is something one woman can do with another. Oh - and Craig also takes medication, so that his erections become fewer and softer. At BiGirl meetings all danger of inadvertent penetration eventually ends. Craig progresses very well, and the other girls practically applaud the first time he takes a dildo up the ass. The other girls become openly affectionate toward Craig. The experience brings out his feminine side - making him a better person. Eventually Craig is seriously considering going for full rather than honorary membership in the Club (without surgery, of course); but then his wife throws in a monkey wrench, so to speak. Things get very complicated. As usual, the last quarter of the story is full of surprises; and this author does a great job of making even the most bizarre events seem perfectly sensible by the end of the story. Ratings for "BiGirls" Athena (technical quality): 10 Venus (plot & character): 10 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10 (Continued in 2/2) Path: newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: celeste801@aol.com (Celeste801) Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories Subject: Celestial Reviews 107 - Aug 10 (2/2) Date: 10 Aug 1996 12:40:24 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 141 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4uie1o$ia0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: celeste801@aol.com (Celeste801) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Status: N Celestial Reviews 107 - August 10, 1996 (2/2) (Continued from 1/2) "Taking Chances" by Javahead (an217242@anon.penet.fi). I came across this story in the THC archives under the enticing title "Guy Shares His Wife with a Friend." That title summarizes the story all right, but it leaves out the nuances that make the story interesting. When his wife asks him to tell her a sexy story while they make love, the man's suggestions reveal to her that their fantasies overlap: he would like to see her being fucked by another man, and she would like to make love to another man while her husband watched. These are not ordinary swingers. At first they are stymied when they try to bring their mutual fantasy to realization; but then Rich, an old college friend of the husband who is obviously attracted to the wife, comes for a visit. They perform sex in a variety of wonderful ways; then Rich goes home and they all live happily ever after. This is a very good story. The author employs a refreshing blend of informality and literacy to tell a really hot story. Although I found this plot to be extremely erotic and enjoyable, I would not want to do these things in my actual life - even if I could be assured of avoiding diseases. The way I value sex in my relationship with my husband, it simply does not make sense to involve a third person. Our relationship is necessarily possessive and exclusive, and I cannot imagine that working with a third party - who might accidentally become more involved with me (for example) than we had planned - or vice versa. Maybe some of you are stronger emotionally than my husband and I are or maybe you have a different kind of relationship with your spouse; and in that case this story may represent an ideal for you. For my part, I think there are some things that are fun to think about but just aren't worth doing in real life. I have on several occasions made love to my husband in the same general area - even adjacent beds - where another couple was making love; but we employed a hands-off policy with regard to the other spouses. This was wonderful. I have also watched others making love while my husband fondled and even made love to me. This was wonderful. But if we were to involve the others in our own lovemaking, we would be running the risk of hurting someone, and that might not be so wonderful. That's one of the reasons I like these stories on a.s.s. I can read and enjoy these stories and fantasize about them and even act them out with my husband. There's no risk that anyone will be hurt. On the other hand, if I were to hit the chat lines and present myself falsely to someone else, then there would be a chance that something would develop that would hurt me, that person, our spouses, or our children. It's not worth the risk. I don't mean to give a moral lecture or to try to talk anyone out of chat lines, cybersex, threesomes, or anything else. We all have to figure out what's right and good for ourselves. I'm just singing the praises of stories like this one. They offer a low-risk environment for enriching our own lives. When I first opened this story, I thought "I've read this story before!"; but a quick check of my database revealed that I had reviewed five stories by this author (none with a rating below 9, incidentally); but none with the word "Chances" in the title. But I KNEW I had read the story. As I looked at the first line - "Tell me a story...." - I assumed that the husband would tell the wife a really sexy story that would lead to really sexy sex that kind of mixed in with the really sexy sex in the really sexy story. That wasn't quite accurate for the present story. To make my own long story short, I checked all five of the Javahead stories, and none of them matched the present story. Then I tried popping "Tell Me a Story" into my database. Voila! A match! I had the culprit. But no, "Tell Me a Story" was written by Smoot2. It had a similar story line; but it was clearly a distinct story. In fact it was rated number 30 on my list of the Top Hundred Stories of 1995. Although Smoot2 may have been influenced by Javahead, these were two separate creative endeavors, not duplication or plagiarism. I'm taking the opportunity to repost the review of the Smoot2 story (since I have just reread it). Maybe Smoot2 will repost it for us. Ratings for "Taking Chances" Athena (technical quality): 10 Venus (plot & character): 10 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10 *"Tell Me a Story" by smoot2 (smoot2@ix.netcom.com). After a session of good sex, a woman asks her lover to tell her a story. He responds with an erotic tale. While she listens, she brings him and herself to an even better orgasm. Ummm! Tell me another story! I could handle about 1001 Nights of This. This story is by the author of "Lyrical Fantasy," which I reviewed in CR 27. That story, I said, was a good story that was ruined by faulty proofreading and bad formatting. I added that if this author ironed the kinks out of his writing, his work would be in a class with the writings of Deidre and Tammy Ng - which is a pretty good class. See! I was right! This is a wonderful story. I would like to take credit for this improvement, but unless smoot2 and I did some time traveling or mental telepathy, he did this on his own. However, my point is still valid: the main difference between this story and the author's previous attempt is that this one is presented better. It's not that the author's exceptional creativity is unimportant - it's just that by cleaning up his final draft of this story he lets us see what he really has to say. With "Lyrical Fantasy" I was constantly distracted by the way the story was presented to me; in this story there still were grammar mistakes, but I skipped right past them and was distracted only by a warm, moist feeling in my pussy. I like this kind of distraction much better. Ratings for "Tell Me a Story" Athena (technical quality): 10 Venus (plot & character): 10 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10 *"Churche House" by Deb Atwood. This story from the THC archives one is about a college woman and a slightly older male graduate student who live in some sort of residence associated with their school. At the beginning of the story the woman has started writing an erotic story of her own, and her first meeting with the guy occurs when he glances over her shoulder while she is typing in horny rapture. After they have dinner and while the guy goes to a meeting, the girl finishes her story, prints out a copy, and puts it under the guy's door. "This is my kind of woman!" says I to myself. "She's hoping he'll proofread it, correct the errors, and give her constructive feedback." Actually, she's hoping to get laid. I've never thought of that; I suppose someone could write erotic stories for some ulterior motive rather than for the intrinsic motivation inherent in giving birth to a work of literature. Also, this story has one of my favorite pickup lines: "You're beautiful when you're having an orgasm." I guess it isn't really a pickup line when my husband says that to me. To be an official pickup line it would have to be, "I'll bet you're beautiful when you're having an orgasm." This is a very good story, but it reveals one of the shortcomings of reposts. This repost was labeled Chapter 1; and THC posted only this single chapter. The chapter stands reasonably well alone, and I'm not criticizing THC; but if I liked it, how will I ever find the other chapters? Maybe Deb Atwood will read this and tell me if there are any more chapters. Ratings for "Churche House" Athena (technical quality): 10 Venus (plot & character): 9 Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 9