Message-ID: <2057eli$9707121810@qz.little-neck.ny.us> X-Archived-At: From: LadyCyrrh@aol.com Subject: The Annex Reviews 7/13/97 Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.d,alt.sex.stories.moderated,alt.sex.stories Followup-To: alt.sex.stories.d Path: qz!not-for-mail Organization: The Committee To Thwart Spam Approved: X-Moderator-Contact: Eli the Bearded X-Story-Submission: X-Original-Message-ID: <970712112632_-692914156@emout17.mail.aol.com> X-Is-Review: yes On the recent debate about selling CD-ROMS with ASS stories on them: It is my stand that the wishes of the author should always be respected. If he or she says go ahead, fine. If they say no by mail contact or in the tagline to their work, hands off (For example, "This work may be freely distributed via electronic media, providing that this header and the byline is included. It may not be sold or included in any work of any sort that might be sold." I'm quoting from the preface material to "Knight Errant," reviewed below.) Of course, many writers are uncontactable, having lost their original email addresses, and many more stories have become separated from their taglines over the course of time, particularly those posted to BBSs. Ethically, because there's no way of finding out the authors' wishes, these stories shouldn't be published outside their original media (the media being distribution through the net, as that's what the author originally did.) I'm aware that programs, icons, and artwork have been passed around for years on the net and have been compiled onto CDs with or without their creators' knowledge. There is valid reasoning behind the "you posted it on the net, so it's ripe fruit for the picking" analogy which posters should be always be aware of. But stories are unique in that they are commodities with potential value to thousands of publishers, and though publishers reject 99% of what crosses their desks, writing is still one of the easiest ways an average person can turn a small profit from their long hours of craft and toil and receive recognition for it. You don't need long years of ballet school, singing lessons, hundreds of auditions, liposuction, or starving in garrets. All you need is an intelligent mind. So, in sum, the authors of the stories should have the last word over what is done with them, even if this seems unrealistic. And though it may be also unrealistic to sue the makers of these CD ROMs over the copyright infringement of one story and expect to receive damages for it, it is also worthwhile for CD makers to remember that lawyers also post to ASS, that pesky lawsuits may interfere with the defendent getting certain kinds of jobs and having peace of mind, and that while money may not come out of a lawsuit, the CD operation may shut down and all copies confiscated--a substantial loss of investment for those involved. In other words, it's your funeral. About the Taria/Buttbyter posts: I can't say I approve 100% of one writer mocking another writer's work in a public forum, no matter how much they think it deserves it. Such things are better left to critics more thick-skinned than I. But I have to admit Taria is the more witty and erudite poet, so if there is a winner in this war, she's it. Now on to the victims...er, stories. Knight Errant [A+] When posted: 7/4/97 Where posted: ASS, ASSM Author: Caintigern O'Niall A young peasant boy comes upon a handsome sleeping knight in his field, and just HAS to see what lies under that chainmail hauberk. Sex ensues, and he is chosen by the knight to be his squire. For straight readers who prefer more mainstream fare, ignore the fact it's gay and that it's a Medieval fantasy; you've got to read this one for the prose alone. The author had a rich, visual style that was also very sensorial, touching equally on the senses of hearing, smell, and taste. The story also featured the most realistic description of fellatio I've ever seen, whether coming from a man or woman. It makes stories like "Escort Service," which is reviewed below, look like funny pages ads for X-ray spy glasses. I'm well aware I'm lambasted for liking fantasy and science fiction stories that are often fairly idiotic. But the truth is most of them are more literate and readable than more "realistic" attempts at sex stories, as SF and fantasy fans have a long-standing tradition of honing their writing talents by swapping stories between themselves and publishing them in fanzines. Such practice makes for better writers, particularly as there's a built-in SF audience for them...whereas more mainstream- oriented writers may have to beg and scrape for others to read their work and receive feedback on it. As for the fantasy and SF elements being unrealistic--what is so realistic about 12-inch cocks or women with 40-inch boobs and 20-inch waists? Or incest stories about a "pair of gorgeous intelligent bisexual nymphomaniac sisters" as one writer's stuff was recently pegged? A WOMAN'S TOUCH...Escort Service [B-/C] When posted: 7/8/97 Where posted: ASS, ASSM Author: trihole@ix.netcom.com (sexy37) If you were a virgin and had read "Knight Errant" followed by this story, you'd be very confused as to what cum tastes like. Is it bitter and salty, or creamy and sweet? Cottage cheese or whipped cream? An older, overheated white woman is so horny for cock she takes a part- time job at an escort agency, specifically requesting black men. She gets her wish when she "escorts" a young black college basketball player. Putting aside the racist undertones for a moment, this was actually a pretty porny fantasy...a total fantasy even more so than the above, even though it was set in the "real" world. Though it was hot, grammatical errors knocked points off, as did the lack of originality and antiquated ideas of racism. Too, the idea of a woman orgasming from sucking cock alone seems more of a man's fantasy than a "woman's touch." The intense level of penis detail, too, is an element more commonly seen in gay male fiction than in stories written by straight women. As the Paige Turns [A] When posted: 7/8/97 Where posted: ASS, ASSM Author: heminway@epix.net (Hawk Richards) Continuing the ongoing debate about fantasy, science fiction and comic book sex... This was an intelligently written, lighthearted, sexy conversation between a female psychiatrist and a male patient who can only become aroused when he hears the buzz of a modem that signals his favorite newsgroup is about to come online. And guess what it is! Though perturbed, and a little aroused, that her patient likes Batman stories, Dr. Grey soon reassures him that his fetish isn't anything to worry about and encourages him to share his hobby with his wife. A funny commentary on ASS subculture. If made into a line drawing cartoon by S. Gross, this story would be at ease in the pages of The New Yorker magazine. The story also brings up an intiguing mystery. What exactly is the sex ratio between male and female writers and readers on ASS? I have the feeling NO ONE will ever know. another kinky story! [C+] When posted: 7/7/97 Where posted: ASS Author: lga178@aol.com (LGA178) I'm not sure what to make of this, so I'll take it as humor. An alcoholic dolt wakes up, drinks a bottle of malt liquor, then decides to fuck himself in the ass with the bottle. His roomate throws him out, but he meets another guy who injects Jack Daniels into his rectum, whom he finds a more congenial companion (the guy, not the rectum.) I can't shake the feeling this was written by some woman as a revenge on a no- good husband or boyfriend. The C+ is for originality and for giving me a little chuckle, but I kinda doubt most people would be interested in reading this. HUMOR: We've seen this before... [ungraded] When posted: 7/2/97 Where posted: ASS, ASSM Author: Reverend Modemac (modemac@tiac.net) A very funny listing of all the story cliches abounding on the ASS newsgroup. Writers, read this before you write. And after. And in between. I'd like to add a few: Subs have all the fun. No one ever comes from watching another tied- up person come. Whenever kink is mentioned or even hinted at, out come the nipple clamps, for everyone knows they're sold in little stands on convenience store counters next to Slimjims and cigarette lighters! If big dogs are mentioned, they will have sex with a human female. No sexually active teenagers have zits. School Spirit [A] When posted: 7/8/97 Where posted: ASS, ASSM Author: Seurat Posted by: dantedibby@aol.com (Dantedibby) This was one of the author's "Twilight Zone" series of stories. A siren (as the Greek siren Circe, who was a witch) lures a well-hung but naive young football player to her lair. She drugs him, and they have sex sans his pants but with all his other gear on. After he orgasms he undergoes a strange transformation. I won't spoil it by telling you what it is, but he could be either very lucky, or very unlucky, depending on your point of view. This story brought a smile to my face even though I don't follow football. Lady Cyrrh@aol.com -- +--------------' Story submission `-+-' Moderator contact `------------+ | story-submit@qz.little-neck.ny.us | story-admin@qz.little-neck.ny.us | | Archive site +--------------------+------------------+ Newsgroup FAQ | \ .../assm/faq.html> /